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Fashion Timeline: 1760-1810

Year: ca 1790-1799
Style: Georgian & Directory
Dresses: Redingote or "martial dress" and chemise
Description: 1) Corruption of the English “riding coat.” It was a gown style inspired by riding coats worn by Englishmen of the same period; 2) Loose, unfitted gown made popular by Marie Antoinette. This gown could be put on over the head; in the 1790s, it became even more simplified and was often worn without a sash at the waist. The puffed sleeves also disappeared (from "Galerie des Modes").


Yay for Revolutionary fashions? o__O;; I think this pretty much gets across my point about fashions changing really quickly! The redingote didn't turn out as nicely as I would've liked, but I'll have other opportunities to draw them >O>;; That style is from 1790-1791... maybe 1792? I doubt it would've been worn any later... with those colors, I mean >__>;; The tricolor redingotes were really popular during the early years of the Revolution.

The second dress is based on a costume from a painting from 1794-95 (yes, it's much earlier than it looks) by an unknown artist (it's been attributed to the circle of David). I think I might've made a few errors in the dress, though, since the painting only shows the upper half of the woman. That floral design probably shouldn't be there on a chemise, though these dresses did have floral embroidery on them in the early 1800s (so I thought maybe I could get away with adding some decoration). The design was somewhat inspired by the embroidery on a roundgown from the Kyoto Costume Institute. I'm not entirely certain, but I think that little bustle pads were worn with the higher-waisted styles (roundgowns and chemise dresses); it's the only way to account for the fullness those dresses had.

And I think Celina might pass as a Merveilleuse? They often wore their hair cropped short. I'll have to look into it.

ONE MORE to go and then I'm done!!! :boogie:

PS. That's NOT an Empire dress. It's from the Directory. Just to clear that up before people get confused ;P

Cammi © ~Seitou
Celina © ~Seitou
Textures are my own.
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:icondarklord86:
darklord86 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
Very nice!
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caitycaitcake Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The details in these are just fantastic.
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Miss-Pixie-Duchess Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2010
Is the chemise also a Revolutionary fashion, despite the fact that Marie Antoinette kinda started it? (Sorry, this is kind of a stupid question, but I'd just like to be sure...)

Because I know that a symbol of France, the Marianne wears a gown similar to the second one...

Please correct me if I'm wrong!
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Seitou Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, a lot of women owned variations of the chemise well before the Revolution, but during the 1790s that style became the new fashion, partly due the interest in neoclassicism and partly because of the unstable political climate. It wasn't necessarily labeled as a "Revolutionary" fashion, but the simplicity of the chemise did symbolize a rejection of the decadence of previous years.
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Miss-Pixie-Duchess Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2010
I see. Very helpful information; thanks so much!

(By the by, I just love all of your period fashion pieces. They're so detailed and lovely.)
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SpeakersBlown Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oooo! I love these!
The right one looks a bit like a prom dress I'm (trying to) design.
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adazu Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Your knowledge of historical fashion impresses me so much!
I love your collection of fashion portraits - if I can call them that? You're a great source for inspiration! Thanks so much for sharing everything! :)
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chibi-monster Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2008
Oh, these are beautiful. *^*
I love these kinds of styles, the 18th century dresses are so nice and sophisticated. 8D
But sometimes the ones that are tied under the chest sometimes make women look pregnant, but I do love the hair too
x3
Oh no I ranted.
D:
*faves*
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AyaneShinobi Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2008   Traditional Artist
I haven't been to DA in a while, so my inbox is filled and I've been so slow to getting to everybody's galleries! I since that you've drawn a lot since my absense...that's great! :) I see you changed your colouring style just a bit, but it looks really good. I'd totally wear that outfit (the white one on the right); it looks the most comfortable too.
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swizzle-stix Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2008
Once again your skills blow me away. :0 This is really beautiful! :love:
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subaru01rins Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
nice work.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
The 1790s is such a difficult period, because everything changed so quickly. I think you know more about the '90s than just about anyone else I know- and you did a great job about depicting the change in styles throughout the decade. Great work!
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yay! I did it right :D :boogie: I'm so relieved I got this period right; I was afraid to work with it in the beginning .__.

I seriously feel like there were some overnight changes in fashion during the 1790s. After studying this period, I'm convinced that most films don't even come close to portraying the period properly.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
There were some decent costumes in Danton, and La Revolution Francaise. And look what's on Youtube! [link]

I'm interested in hearing what you think of the costumes, even though the wigs in the beginning 1770s ball scene have the "poodles fallen out of the sky" look to them, unfortunately...

If you're ever in Paris, you should check out the Musee Carnavalet. There's a bunch of fashion drawings for women in 1793-1794 there, and you see some of the tight-waisted "1780s hangover" gowns as late as '94.
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm watching the beginning right now. They say it's 1788 in the beginning, though. The wigs don't look too bad; they're poofy, but a lot of the wigs have that frizzled look in paintings. They're certainly better than the Amadeus wigs, that's for sure! I only wish the film had subtitles so I could understand what they're saying :(
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh, yeah! Oops, I kind of conflated the beginning scene of Robespierre as a youth with the later ball scene... Did they wear those panniered robes a la francaise at court in the late '80s?

I've seen it before with English subtitles, so I have a general idea of what's going on. How are you on you French Revolution era history? Because it basically follows Danton, Robespierre and Camille Desmoulins' lives, fairly accurately...
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, they did wear the huge panniers in the '80s. I think there are two of them in the Galerie des Modes... only they don't look as fancy as what you see in the film.

I'm not really familiar with the details of the French Revolution. I know the major events and what happened, but I don't know the specifics. All my history teachers sped through the Revolution so fast it's not even funny :( I need to read up on it if I ever find the time.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Have you seen any more of the film? What do you think?
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I haven't gotten a chance to watch anymore. I'll have to watch it during Winter Break.
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ButterflyAmore Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2008
Celina a Merveilleuse? Maybe. the dress is a bit too full through. Merveilleuses wore translucent lightweight dress, usually in white.
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In the Vernet images, the Merveilleuses wear the sheer, white dresses, but the Kyoto Costume Institute has some extant dresses that were worn by those women, so those are what I was going by. Most of the dresses were like you said, but some were actually really dark (there was a purple/maroon dress), which was a little surprising. But they were actually pretty full. In the 1790s, dresses had trains in the back, so they did have more volume (plus a lot of women wore little bustle pads). It was really the pattern on the bottom of the dress I wasn't too sure about, since the Mermeilleuses didn't seem to wear dresses with patterns or embroidery.
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Danni-Marie Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008
Your whole fashion time line is amazing. I find the fashion of women very interesting. The detail you put in the dresses is fabulous! Can't wait to see the last addition!
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :D
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goonmann-85 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008
Yay! New drawing! I love the colours on both dresses they're so classic and rich. I know the painting your talking about that features that style dress and its one of my favourites, I identified the shape straight away and got a little excited lol!
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heheh :D Thank you! Yay! Someone else knows that painting! That painting caught my eye right away because normally dresses weren't THAT revealing in '94-'95; I was expecting it to be from around '96-'98, so the date was a little shocking.
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goonmann-85 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008
I know what you mean. I thought it was an Ancient Greek costume at first lol. Its hard to believe the fashion was so sexy and beautiful in a time of war. And in England, from the prudish tottery you wouldn't think they dressed that way at all. You should do more regency stuff it really suits your style!
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Little-Ginkgo Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008
Very nice!!! :love: Great work!
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :D
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Ayrania-chan Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008
Snape icon is made of awesome.

I love your work. : )
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Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heheh... Snape = :heart: And thank you! :)
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Punkanime Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008
*Shifty eyes* *Steals dresses* *Runs away* :ninja:
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:XD:
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YDPGirl93 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008
Oh man, those feathers are so intense! I love how it frames the first wome's face. You are so knowledgable about fashion, I love reading your comments!
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :D I'm glad some people enjoy my silly fashion rants :giggle:
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LeSoldatMort Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Student Digital Artist
I'm in love with the first one, can't help myself xD
:heart:
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:XD:
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lune-fille Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008   Photographer
Oooh...stunning!
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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Miyulay Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008
Awsome!
I really like it :)
You have a great talent to show the fashion of history :lol:
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :D
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Miyulay Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2008
You are Welcome :)
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Jacobea Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
Nice :) Makes you wonder how they didn't freeze to death in those dresses though :|

btw-i think the name for really short, female hair cut of the time was "Titian"/"Titan" or some such. Don't know if that's of any use to you ^^;
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:iconseitou:
Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I can't imagine how horrible it must've been during the winter wearing those dresses :| Even with spencer jackets... those dresses weren't warm at all.


The shorter hair was a la Titus, but there were probably other names for it too.
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Rojozorra Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Well done as always I love the series and you are fantastic at doing the fashion.
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Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :aww:
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Rojozorra Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
You are very welcome :hug:
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sazuka Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2008
So lovely! The redingote must be, at this moment, my favorite costume of all the times. It's so elegant, so simplified, in a certain way so masculine yet the cut manages to enhance all the feminity a woman can have, it's so coquettish . If I could, I would wear redingotes all the winter *_*
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Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heheh I love the masculine women's clothing, too :love: Riding coats are the best :w00t:
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inkscribble Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2008
Le SIGH! I love your dresses so much! :love: Also, I reckon Celina could pass for Marveilleuse, too.
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Seitou Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yay! I was hoping to work a Merveilleuse into this project :D
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